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Scipio Artelius
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Posted - 2015.08.12 02:18:24 -
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Victory Myel wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:If it is true, yay more incursions!
Well, the Galatea feedback thread in the Test Server forum seems to be fairly clear.
Coming in the next release:
Team Space Glitter
Updates to behavior NPCs (Drifters and Amarr Navy) for NPC vs NPC combat
Defense of the Throne Worlds incursion
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Posted - 2015.11.19 11:18:28 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Incursions have actually been nerfed at least twice in the last few years.
Really? What nerfs were those recently?
In Hyperion (Aug 2014), all incursions were buffed: https://public-crest.eveonline.com/killmails/50245545/3ec3d27e33272ad851e485b6c2e860e0f34e5260/
In Inferno (April 2012), incursions were buffed to provide higher rewards than they provided when rolled out in 2010 (no devblog I can find). After monitoring, the buff was found to be too good, so the buffs were rolled back slightly in June.
I don't have anything against how people earn their ISK or incursions. Good luck to whatever method others use. I'm just interested in what nerfs there have been.
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Posted - 2015.11.19 23:44:39 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:The Low & Null buff I referred to started with hyperion though, however I don't think you are particularly targeting low & null incursions anyway
But what nerfs have CCP implemented on highsec incursions, that you mentioned earlier?
I can't see any in any of the patch notes or release information going back, but I'm no expert. Nothing against incursions as a source of income for people.
I'm just interested in what the nerfs have been and the original info from CCP about them.
In terms of inferno buffs, the original devblog link seems to be broken (and doesn't appear to be in the devblog list going right through 2012 individually), but this is the info on rolling back the changes slightly that occurred in June 2012:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/incursions-update/
That was just a rollback of the buffs a bit because they were initially too good not an overall nerf, as far as I can find from other sources.
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Posted - 2015.11.20 03:16:16 -
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Kinete Jenius wrote:[quote=Scipio Artelius]You used to be able to blitz sites and the NPCs were much easier to deal with. Those were probably the biggest nerfs effectively as while pay was the same the time between payout increased dramatically. There's been various tweaks done by CCP over the years that didn't involve payout but did decrease overall isk per hour.
So if you're just looking for straight payout decreases I can see why you're having issues finding more then a few minor looking nerfs.
The first link is talking about rolling back some of the nerfs that CCP hammered incursions with. THey made it so influence built so fast it was tough getting HQ fleets to run. They also overkilled on the payout nerf especially on VGs. So they rolled that back too. Although you can see in that dev post that CCP is talking about the NPC and trigger nerf I stated earlier.
That Wikipedia link makes me scratch my head as it was inferno that released the nerfs to incursions not buffs. Someone got that badly wrong. Your first link clearly shows that is the case as it's commenting about rolling back the inferno nerfs and the date is post inferno. Not sure if someone just screwed up when they edited that section of the wiki or if it's malicious.
Thanks. I'll go look for the patch notes on those, but excellent info, thanks.
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